Saturday, August 28, 2010

The Roman Catholic Church not Protestantism was founded by Jesus Christ

Recently I was challenged on my Catholic beliefs by a born again Christian-formerly a Roman Catholic. This man provided quotes in abundance from the bible in an effort to try and persuade me that he had made the correct decision. What is becoming increasingly obvious is the fact that many born again Christians are engaged in a concerted campaign to undermine the Catholic Church. Much of what they preach is utter nonsense and seriously in error.

Here is my first reply which I forwarded to him:

Hi,
"I love the Roman Catholic Church very much. Afterall it is the Church founded by Christ. When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? And they said, Some [say that thou art] John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed [it] unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. (Matthew 16:13-19).

The Roman Catholic Church has an unbroken line from Peter all the way down to today. The Roman Catholic Church was the only Church founded by Jesus.
All other Churches are man made. All the Protestant Churches are man made. There are approximately 33,000 Protestant denominations. They all believe different things. They all cant be correct. No two Protestants that I speak to believe in the same thing. Each Protestant sect interprets the bible differently.
If you read Surprised by the Truth 2 ( Author=Patrick Madrid) 15 men and women give the biblical and historical reasons for becoming Catholic. They were almost all Protestants. In Surprised by the Truth 3 (Patrick Madrid) 10 more Converts to Catholicism explain the biblical and historical reasons for becoming Catholic. The closer these former Protestants looked at Catholicism the more they found that Christs truth is taught in its fullness only in the Catholic Church.
Make sure to read these two books. They will fully answer all your questions about Catholicism

The Protestant position on confessing sins is completely wrong. If you read carefully http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/a135.htm you will see why.
The Protestant position on the Eucharist is completely wrong. At the consecration in the Holy Mass the host is changed in its entirety into Our Lords Body and Blood.
For proof of this read about the The Eucharistic Miracle of Lanciano at
http://www.trosch.org/inx/lanciano.html Make sure to read about it.
This took place in the 8th century. A monk had doubts about the Consecration.
One morning, while he was having a strong attack of doubt, he began the Consecration of the Mass for the people of the town. He used the same size host which is used in the Latin Rite masses today. What he beheld as he consecrated the bread and wine caused his hands to shake, indeed his whole body. He stood for a long time with his back to the people, and then slowly turned around to them.

He said: "0 fortunate witnesses to whom the Blessed God, to confound my disbelief, has wished to reveal Himself in this Most Blessed Sacrament and to render Himself visible to our eves. Come, brethren, and marvel at our God so close to us. Behold the Flesh and Blood of our most beloved Christ."

The host had turned into Flesh. The wine had turned into Blood.

The people, having witnessed the miracle for themselves, began to wail, asking for forgiveness, crying for mercy. Others began beating their breasts, confessing their sins, declaring themselves unworthy to witness such a miracle. Still others went down on their knees in respect, and thanksgiving for the gift the Lord had bestowed on them. All spread the story throughout the town and surrounding villages.

The miracle is ONGOING. The Host-turned-Flesh, and the Wine-turned-Blood, without the use of any form of preservative, is STILL present in the reliquary. In 1574 testing was done on the Flesh and Blood and an unexplainable phenomenon was discovered. The five pellets of coagulated Blood are different sizes and shapes. But any combination weighs the same as the total. In other words, 1 weighs the same as 2, 2 weigh the same as 3, and 3 weigh the same as 5.
Read the full article. It will prove that the Catholic Church is correct on the Eucharist.
Read Eucharistic Miracle Sienna Italy 1730 at http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/mir/siena.html
There are other examples just google them. Read here for more examples:
http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/mir/a3.html
Your Protestant friends will have no answer to these miracles which prove that the host in its entirety is changed into Our Lords Body and Blood at the Consecration.

Now look for other evidence. Look at the Blessed Virgin appearing to Catholic children at Lourdes, Fatima, Medjugorje. Read about the Miracle of the Sun at Fatima. Even hardened atheists were converted. Read about Our Lady of Beauraing (1932-33) . Read about Marian apparitions at Banneux. Read about Our Lady of Guadalupe, Our Lady of Laus,Our Lady of La Salette, Our Lady of Knock. Protestant sects have never had any affirmation from God that they are correct. They show little respect for Mary Mother of God.

Our Lady made promises to those who pray the Rosary. Our Lady revealed to St. Dominic and Blessed Alan de la Roche additional benefits for those who devoutly pray the Rosary. See http://www.ourladyswarriors.org/prayer/15promise.htm
Now read here how the Rosary saved a British soldiers life in Afghanistan. Read it here in my blog: http://johnbarrysblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/rosary-saves-british-soldiers-life-in.html

In relation to Confession note how when Padre Pio and the Curé of Ars could
tell people who went to confess to them WHAT SINS they had held back .
Please be in no doubt that the overwhelming body of evidence is with the Roman Catholic Church. Please read up on what I have posted here. You will see it is the truth.
All Protestant Churches and sects are man made. Only the Roman Catholic Church was set up by Jesus. Remember Jesus appointed Peter as the first Pope.
Dont mind what born again Christians say about the Catholic Church. They are incorrect.
Please do not leave the Church founded by Jesus. The Catholic Church founded by Jesus Christ has the full body of truth. "

Quickly he returned with another raft of quotes: This was my second reply to him:
Hi,
"Please read carefully my original reply. Check on everything I have said in that reply. You will see that the Catholic Church is the one true Church founded by Christ. There are approximately 33,000 different Protestant sects. Each one of them was founded by man. The Roman Catholic Church is the only Church founded by Jesus Christ.
If you read Surprised by the Truth 2 and Surprised by the Truth 3 by Patrick Madrid you will see clearly why the Protestant religions are wrong.. In these books you have people who were originally Protestant explaining why they became Catholics. They explain how Protestantism is in error. If you look at the Protestant position on the Eucharist it does not add up. The Roman Catholic position that at the consecration the host becomes Our Lords Body and Blood in its entirety is the correct belief. Our Lord has even provided Miracles on the Eucharist to prove this,
Read about the Eucharistic Miracles of Lanciano and Siena.The Eucharistic Miracle of Lanciano at
http://www.trosch.org/inx/lanciano.html Make sure to read about it.
Read Eucharistic Miracle Sienna Italy 1730 at http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/mir/siena.html. There is a full list of them here at http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/mir/engl_mir.htm. Take particular note of the Eucharistic Miracles. Protestants cannot answer these. They are God's answer to mans doubts. Just remember the protestant position on the Eucharist is wrong. God has even provided the proof with these miracles.
The Protestant position on Confession is completely in error. If you read here you will see why:
http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/a135.htm

Just look at all the apparitions of Our Lady to Catholics. Read about Fatima, Lourdes, Medjugorje (just three of many). What about the Miracle of Fatima when the sun came spinning towards the earth. 70,000 people witnessed the miracle. Heather Parsons was an Irish Protestant from Dublin. She is now a huge supporter of Medjugorje and is a staunch Catholic. She has written books on Medjugorje.
God has not given any signs to any Protestant Church or sect that it is the true religion.
View the video Colleen Williards Miracle Testimony. It concerns Medjugorje. View it here : http://en.gloria.tv/?media=39412.
Make sure to view it. Show it to your Protestant friends.
Read the book Medjugorje Whats Happening? by James Mulligan. On page 29 you will read the following: "Only two months or so before the 24th June 1981, something else strange happened.Vicka Ivankovic's younger brother found on the family's farm tractor trailer two sets of Rosary beads. On one set of Rosary beads was a quite beautifully carved crucifix in ivory depicting all 14 Stations of the Stations of the Cross. Franjo youngest of Vickas four sisters and three brothers relates that at six o'clock one morning in April 1981 he was getting ready to go out with their little tractor and trailer to collect some wood. As I was putting all the tools we needed in the trailer I spotted two sets of Rosary beads. I picked up the Rosary Beads and brought them to my mother and grandmother. As I gave them the beads I made a joke saying this must be the Gospa saying you must pray more.We checked with all the neighbours but nobody claimed the beads. Some weeks after the apparitions began Zlata my mother asked Vicka to ask the Gospa (Virgin Mary) about the Rosary beads. Vicka asked and the Gospa said that the Rosaries were a special gift from her to our family"

Padre Pio and the Curé of Ars could tell people who went to confess to them WHAT SINS they had held back
Protestants cannot explain any of the above. I have debated with them.
Catholics become born again once they go to Confession and confess their sins to a priest.

Each and every week a new protestant sect springs up. Now 33,000 Protestant sects- each believing different things- cannot be the true church.

Do you seriously believe that each new born again group is the one true Church founded by Christ? Born again groups interpret Scripture in different ways. Born again groups are founded by man as are all Protestant groups. Jesus appointed St Peter as the first pope. There is an unbroken line of popes from Peter to Pope Benedict. The Catholic Church is the one true Church. I have provided you with a huge body of evidence to prove this. Please read it with an open mind. You will, see all the evidence points towards the Catholic Church as the one true Church. Dont mind what born again groups say about Catholicism. It is they who are in error. The Catholic Church has the full body of truth. It is in existence for over 2,000 years. It is Gods Church. It was set up by Jesus Christ. it has stood the test of time. How long are born again groups in existence?
Please meet a Catholic priest and discuss this with him. Pray the Rosary daily. I love the Catholic Church. It is the only Church founded by Christ,
Just remember the British soldier saved by the Rosary in Afghanistan. The man was standing on a landmine. http://johnbarrysblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/rosary-saves-british-soldiers-life-in.html
Just read this:
http://johnbarrysblog.blogspot.com/2009/10/us-pilot-scott-ogradys-marian.html
It concerns US Pilot Scott O'Grady's Marian Apparition when shotdown over Bosnia in 1995 .
Please come back to the true faith. Come back to the Catholic Church which was founded by Jesus Christ."

In short this born again Christian has failed to answer convincingly the arguments that I have made. In essence he has been brainwashed by born again groups. The Catholic Church needs to wake up to the threat posed by these groups.

9 comments:

gayforjesus said...

well you didnt show his side of the argument first of all
all you said was "Quickly he returned with another raft of quotes: This was my second reply to him:"
you cant say he didnt defend his point well enough,without backing that up with evidence

John Barry said...

I have produced the evidence required to prove that Roman Catholicism is the Church founded by Christ. It has an unbroken line from St.Peter. All Protestant Churches were founded by man. The challenge that I put out to him was to provide evidence that any Protestant church was founded by Christ. This he failed to do. No such evidence exists.
He spoke about PROPHECY THROUGH LEWIS CROMPTON. This not proof that born again christianity has the truth. Lewis Crompton is not God.

gayforjesus said...

in the post you said that the Protestant religions are wrong,you cant say that a religion is wrong,religion is up for interpretation,it is purely faith based.there is no hard evidence for religion.

shane said...

Well said. The number of 'born again Christian' denominations in Ireland is exploding. It's increasingly hard to go about one's business without being solicited by them.

Shane
http://lxoa.wordpress.com

John Barry said...

Of course there is hard evidence for religion. If you read my full post there is evidence in abundace that the Roman Catholic Church has the full body of truth. The weakness of Protestantism is that it seeks to bend its teachings to prevailing circumstances. This has lead to doctrinal chaos in the various Protestant religions. You (gayforjesus) state that religion is up for interpretation. That is a recipe for chaos as people make up their own beliefs as they go along. The ten commandments are immutable. Unfortunately many Protestant groups forget this.

John Barry said...

I agree Shane. Born again groups are targeting the Catholic Church. Much of what they preach is pure nonsense.

Michael Gormley said...

When did Jesus drink the last cup?

Jesus drank from 3 cups during the Last Supper, but the last - the fourth - he did not drink from then.

Matthew 27:48, Mark 15:36, Luke 23:36, and John 19:30 show Jesus drinking vinegar or sour wine on the cross, from a sponge placed on a hyssop branch.

The hyssop branch was symbolic of the sprinkling of the Passover lamb's blood using a hyssop branch - see Exodus 12:22.

So Jesus was truly the Passover Lamb; then he said, "It is finished."

THE 4TH CUP

mona_pola said...

Thank you for all you wrote in support of Catholic Church. I will like to know where Our Lord Jesus said that what same authority given to Simon Peter (in Matt16:13-19) is transferable to others after him?

Paul said...

John amen, We the laity must wake up and become the Church Militant. We have truth on our side. The burden of proof lies with the non Catholics. I agree their arguments are weak..but ultimately we Catholics need to live Holy Lives and share the truth in love. Thanks for your zeal....